Singer Kanye Who??
My brother and I were reading a Jewish newspaper that caters to the yeshivish community. They know that for many, this is their only news source. So they deemed it important enough to mention Kanye West's recent statement, "President Bush doesn't care about black people." I found the fact that they mentioned him entertaining enough, but it only got better. They referred to him as Singer (not Rapper) Kanye West, and said that "she" did not stick to "her" prepared speech. It's so nice to see naive clueless people think that he's a woman.As much I make fun of these people, I admire them. Because, honestly, how will my knowledge of the celebrity world help me "up there"? I like when people try to remain sheltered (to a point-not to the point of naivete, which in my opinion, is hazardous) I think it shows a certain pride in being frum. I remember mentioning Jessica Simpson in passing to a friend of mine--at the height of Newlyweds and her, "Is it chicken or fish" flub. My friend crinkled her nose and asked, "Jessica WHO?" I used to think it was impossible to escape these things. I thought everyone knew about Britney Spears and Brad and Jen and Angelina, but I do believe that there is a small percentage of Jews (none in my neighborhood, really) that choose to isolate themselves from this garbage, and I really admire their efforts.
It's really hard to avoid exposure to these things. Although I had never seen an episode of Sex and the City, I could still the names of the actresses and the characters they play. The same for Desperate Housewives. Because the media is so loud and overbearing. It's everywhere.
I wrote a seven-page article on that which I am trying to figure out where to put...
posted by Michelle @ 6:22 PM
11 Comments:
First of all, if the Yated or whatever paper you are referring to, chose not to mention this rapper at all, fine.. But to write inaccurate things is sheer stupidity.
As for living in isolation and ignorance its only a maala if you replace it with something meaningful. I know many girls who don't have a clue about Pop Culture Icons , such as TV, Movie and Music Stars, Sports etc.. but they know very lil Torah, also..
What is the point in being an empty-headed girl that will eventually just frustrate her husband when there is no one to talk to about either subject..
I read the Yated too and saw it. Truth is I thought Shayne was a guy's name so I realized it was weird, but I never specificaly heard of this rapper.
I don't consider myself like very isolated, like I have a blog and go online and stuff, but the truth is while I heard of the movies (or shows?) you mentioned, I couldn't name a single actor. I think it has alot to do with interest, of which I guess I don't have alot for this stuff. It's not just exposure. Cause like I guess I am exposed, but since I am not interested, it like doesn't stick.
Also I left a comment on your last post. Sorry I have been negligent in visiting your amazing blog!
Shalom
Gosh, now you are surely all laughing. I mean Kayne, not Shayne. I'm not that bad.
First of all i agree with elisheva because i grew up with a tv and let me tell you that the only actresses that i know by name are mary kate and ashley and fran drescher so you can be ignorant if you want to be
Why did the Yated feel it necessary to mention such a trivial point about the President not knowing a a rapper? I'm still confused....
I disagree with the above posts who posit that you can be sheltered if you want to be. I personally am considered a "sheltered" person i.e. i don't have a tv in my house, don't read secular reading material, don't listen to the radio, don't get magazines...yet, i can name you 90% of the Hollywood celebrities and know exactly what Desperate Housewives is and who plays on it. I think some people just absorb more of their surrounding than others. I don't know what else I can do to isolate myself, but I just manage to see/hear these things in passing and they stick. You're lucky that you had a tv, and it didn't stick.
Two things:
(a) Yated is a piece of garbage. Hamodia kicks!
(b) The first anonymous is right - you can be as sheltered as you want to be. I don't buy this business that you're trying to avoid it, but it's just there. If you look for it, you'll find it. If you don't care about it, you'll ignore it. Otherwise, every person in the world would know about Desperate Housewives, but many people don't. As they'd say in yeshiva, tell it to the Marines.
Being sheltered is very possible even today.The more modern boys where talking about M Jackson, when a 'frummer'(in dress anyway) kid passed by ans said with much pride that he knew M Jackson was afamous singer.
a few days later a kid brought a newspaper which feautured a pic of Jackson, the same kid passe d and saw ans asked: is thay a mummy?(+-13 years ago)
So about Country Yossi publishing anything...I was thinking of that, but I don't know what his readership is.
I with agree the last anonymous. There ARE people who don't know what Desperate Housewives is, because they don't want to know. I agree-if someone wants to know these things, as much as they deny it, they persued the information.
As for what I said about myself,it's not like I try to stay sheltered from it. If I was trying to, I probably would NOT know what I know. I read Us Weekly, I stop at newsstands when a trashy Star catches my eye. And I'm not ashamed. I won't pretend to be looking at the Yated. There are people are choose to be exposed and hide it, and some do it openly-like I do.
Those who claim they just know it from being around, not having ready newspapers and magazines...something's fishy. To know Desperate Housewives, okay--you see it on buses, to be able to name the actresses and the characters--that takes some amount of effort.
Basically, I agree with Elisheva and the girl who agreed with her. And I admire them too.
As for living in isolation and ignorance its only a maala if you replace it with something meaningful. I know many girls who don't have a clue about Pop Culture Icons , such as TV, Movie and Music Stars, Sports etc.. but they know very lil Torah, also..
What is the point in being an empty-headed girl[?]--Semgirl
Excellent point! For the guys there is always more Torah to learn. The women--particularly now that homemaking is not as labor intensive as it was fifty years ago--need something meaningful to fill up their time.
As for this rapper/singer: I, someone with a vast reservoir of knowlege, lulei demistafina, of secular pop culture, never heard of him until his comment about Bush. So much for being "well-rounded."
First of all, I just wanted to say that I'm glad you're writing (& noticing)positive things about the Jewish community also. Personally, I don't see why the Yated had to mention that rapper in the first place. Either you know who he is & it means something to you, or you don't know who he is, in which case, I don't see why you would quote him. Semgirl, I don't get your point-just because someone doesn't know very much Torah(or isn't interested), he(or she in your case)should fill his head in garbage? There must be something neutral to think about! I've never met a truly empty-headed girl. They may think about the wrong things, or stupid things, but they do think. And just for the record, I've never heard of the above-mentioned rapper, & although I have heard of Desparate Housewives(that's the show the lady in shul said was the 1 thing she couldn't give up), I don't know what it's about or who's in it.
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